Opinion Thread- OREGON VS. UTAH

[cincy_]

Instead of sharing "winners"

, I thought we could use this thread to express thoughts on this game. Should be useful to all.

Play on Oregon because:

It's a Pac-10 team playing a MWC team. No way Utah beats a Pac 10 team.

Play on Utah because:

Utah has already beaten a Pac 10 team

Wish everyone would post their thoughts on the game - and have reasons to play either team - just make sure your reasons on playing a side are better than mine

 

[KMAN]

Play on Oregon because Oregon is the better team. They had 9 Turnovers last week against Wash St!!!!! 7 INTs!!!!! That won't happen again!

KMAN

 

[cincy_]

Why won't it happen again?

I sat down at halftime of that WSU game and thought, "They have succked this half. They won't play as bad a half again". I laid -7 on Oregon for the 2nd half thinking their 2nd half wouldn't be as bad as their 1st half. Needless to say, it was as bad and I lost a unit.

 

[thoraxx]

Oregon Vs Utah Trends quote:


Oregon is 6-1 in Game Six
Oregon is 8-13 off a loss and fav in current game

Utah is 4-1 in game five
Utah is 7-0 home of Su win vs Non Con Opp
7-0 ATS of SU Dog win
Utah is 9-1 ATS vs non con opp
Utah is 21-8 off win and dog in current game

I am thinking about taking Utah in the game with the Points. Is anybody else liking Utah? Seems like everybody is on Oregon.

 

[bhg]

What has Oregon done on the road this year? They got a hot start on a terrible Miss st team - let them back in it and pulled away late.

It would be a different story if Oregon was at home to rebound against Utah - but they're not - its on the road for a night game in Utah on a short week.

 

[gopherbob]

i like the utes here, can't see
oregon getting up for a non conf
away game off a bad loss vs a team
that would to love to beat a
pac 10 team.

 

[cincy_]

I am leaning Utah too

Two things scare me:

1) Their starting QB, who had been out the last couple of weeks, is back. The backup was playing great and this starter is an unknown, as far as I am concerned.

2) The Oregon run defense should be able to stop the Utah run. Oregon's weekness is the secondary, while Utah's strength is the running game. Matchups may not be in Utah's favor here.

 

[bhg]

If elliot's back , it isn't a bad thing. Alex Smith was ok, but Elliot is definitely better.

 

[JUMBO227]

BEAUTIFUL NIGHT FOR FOOTBALL, TAKE THE OVER AND GO OUT AND CHASE PUSSY. Tonight: Mostly clear. Low near 50F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph.

 

[theerodfather]

I TOATALLY AGREE WITH JUMBO.CHASE PUSSY AND PLAY THE OVER.
THEERODFATHER

 

[RobFunk]

its interesting because UTAH is 9-0 ats as a dog but oregon is 9-0 ats on grass and 6-0 ats as a road fav theyre also 5-1 ats when the line is -3 to +3 pts.

i dont know what to make of that other than forget looking at the stats.

the under seems to be the play. think about how well coached utah is going to be. they will be very prepared for this game. theyre going to chew a lot of clock. last time these two played it was in sep of 2001 and the score was 10-24 (@oregon 53 & -18.5). utah is also 5/6 on unders after 2 or more consecutive straight up wins and 2/3 on unders when playing against a team with a winning record.

 

[RobFunk]

cincy hugg:

UTAH -++
(10/01 06:51am) QB Brett Elliott (wrist) missed last 2 games, downgraded to doubtful.

what do you think? if they have the same starting QB as last few games you like utah?!

 

[jimmymo]

Oregon's weakness is their secondary..Utah's passing yardage for first four games:

180
210
136
158

Oregon run defense is solid....Utah not a great defense against either run or pass...Belloti is an offensive genius...

Utah has been great in the dog role, but after a couple of high profile wins, they will not be sneaking up on Oregon tonight.

GL

 

[cincy_]

Rob Funk

I hate making a play when there is a HUGE unknown - Elliot, for me, was an unknown.

Now that Elliot's not playing, the stats actually mean something. It means I can now say, "Utah doesn't turn the ball over and throw interceptions" with a little more confidence as I look deeper into this game.

 

[bhg]

I think it should be noted - if Oregon's weakness is the Pass D I'm sure Meyer will find ways in his wacky spread offense to take advantage of it. In regards to Oregon's stout run D - again Utah doesn't line up in the I and handoff - they're running options, draws, reverses, all that crazy stuff.

 

[GamblinMan+]

I have to lean towards Oregon here. Saw Utah play last week. CSU moved the ball at will on them and only beat themselves. Handing Utah 14 pts on stupid plays. CSU played an awful game yet still had the opportunity to win.

 

[jimmymo]

Agreed that Meyer is a very good coach -- and the Utes may find success moving the ball with the running game -- but they won't be able to keep up with the Ducks relying completely on the run....As for Meyer exposing the Ducks "D", as an Oregon backer, I can only hope that his game plan is to come out and try and throw the ball a ton -- a foreign concept to the Utes offense....

Duck offense just too athletic for the Utes to stay with them...just my thoughts...GL

 

[RobFunk]

arent the ducks WR's banged up?!

OREGON -++
(10/01 06:54am) WR Samie Parker (personal) has left the team but is probable.
(09/29 08:24am) Backup RB Chris Vincent (ankle) downgraded from "?" to doubtful.
(09/29 08:24am) LB David Martin (concussion) injured last game, "?".
(09/29 08:24am) WR Jordan Carey (concussion) injured last game, "?".
(09/28 02:41am) WR Demetrius Williams (knee) left last game, "?".
(09/28 02:40am) DE Quinn Dorsey (suspension) upgraded from "?" to probable.+

UTAH -++
(10/01 06:51am) QB Brett Elliott (wrist) missed last 2 games, downgraded to doubtful.
The Deseret Morning News reports -
Alex Smith is a safe bet to make his third consecutive start at
quarterback. Brett Elliott, who is recovering from a fractured wrist,
is still bothered by the injury and has yet to fully participate in
contact drills.
(09/28 02:41am) RB Marty Johnson (suspended) is expected to miss.
(09/28 02:41am) OL Jesse Boone (ankle) is out 6 weeks.+

is this a factor?

 

[RobFunk]

Demetrius Williams is the man on that offense. that guy is spectacular. without him pts will be tougher to come by.

 

[jimmymo]

FYI -- Oregon's trainer was quoted yesterday as saying "his (d. williams') knee is sore, but should be fine by gametime."